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	<description>Extreme giftedness, re-forming education, homeschooling, parenting and more...as seen from the Washington, DC suburbs.</description>
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		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://themorechild.com/2009/10/19/all-gifted-all-the-time/#comment-2447</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Totally agree.  Why do the classes for smart kids have so much homework?  I had every minute of every day scheduled in order to get my homework done and extracurriculars in.  I was one of few who did something besides school work.   When I went to college as a college athlete, with work study and a full course load,  there was so much free time, I didn&#039;t know what to do with myself.

So, yes, going straight to college would have appeal.

Now, I look at my kids growing up.  They are soon to enter middle school, and I hear that all the GT classes (Howard County) have one hour homework each.  We will probably pick and choose because I don&#039;t think this is the right path- unless they are passionately driven in this direction.

Just because you are good at academics shouldn&#039;t mean that&#039;s all you do!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree.  Why do the classes for smart kids have so much homework?  I had every minute of every day scheduled in order to get my homework done and extracurriculars in.  I was one of few who did something besides school work.   When I went to college as a college athlete, with work study and a full course load,  there was so much free time, I didn&#8217;t know what to do with myself.</p>
<p>So, yes, going straight to college would have appeal.</p>
<p>Now, I look at my kids growing up.  They are soon to enter middle school, and I hear that all the GT classes (Howard County) have one hour homework each.  We will probably pick and choose because I don&#8217;t think this is the right path- unless they are passionately driven in this direction.</p>
<p>Just because you are good at academics shouldn&#8217;t mean that&#8217;s all you do!</p>
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		<title>By: J.</title>
		<link>http://themorechild.com/2009/10/19/all-gifted-all-the-time/#comment-2357</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, switched on! When I pulled DD out for that lone homeschool year in 8th, a woman I highly respect with expertise in gifted education said, &quot;Don&#039;t apply to XYZ school. It&#039;s too much homework!&quot; What should I do instead,  I asked. She replied, skip high school and go straight to college.

I politely dismissed that idea as insane. I began to think about it. It no longer struck me as quite so insane. I went in with my eyes open. The relentless homework overload which leads to sleep deprivation saps kids.

A woman who likes my comments on another forum just wrote to me about homeschooling. Her husband is very resistant. The boy is in 7th grade. I am urging her. While there&#039;s still time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, switched on! When I pulled DD out for that lone homeschool year in 8th, a woman I highly respect with expertise in gifted education said, &#8220;Don&#8217;t apply to XYZ school. It&#8217;s too much homework!&#8221; What should I do instead,  I asked. She replied, skip high school and go straight to college.</p>
<p>I politely dismissed that idea as insane. I began to think about it. It no longer struck me as quite so insane. I went in with my eyes open. The relentless homework overload which leads to sleep deprivation saps kids.</p>
<p>A woman who likes my comments on another forum just wrote to me about homeschooling. Her husband is very resistant. The boy is in 7th grade. I am urging her. While there&#8217;s still time.</p>
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		<title>By: SwitchedOnMom</title>
		<link>http://themorechild.com/2009/10/19/all-gifted-all-the-time/#comment-2355</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[J.  I love your comments!  And I love your idea of a school dedicated to &quot;those&quot; kids.  I look at C.&#039;s workload and I just cringe.  She is doing two activities after school that keep her there late every day of the week.  They feed a part of her and give her a different kind of outlet.  But then it&#039;s home and studying.  The weekend...studying.  Is the day in, day out incessant homework load really necessary?  I&#039;ve heard from many people who chose to skip high school that equivalent college classes are actually easier.  I have to believe it.  Strikes me there&#039;s no time for reflection in high school.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.  I love your comments!  And I love your idea of a school dedicated to &#8220;those&#8221; kids.  I look at C.&#8217;s workload and I just cringe.  She is doing two activities after school that keep her there late every day of the week.  They feed a part of her and give her a different kind of outlet.  But then it&#8217;s home and studying.  The weekend&#8230;studying.  Is the day in, day out incessant homework load really necessary?  I&#8217;ve heard from many people who chose to skip high school that equivalent college classes are actually easier.  I have to believe it.  Strikes me there&#8217;s no time for reflection in high school.</p>
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		<title>By: J.</title>
		<link>http://themorechild.com/2009/10/19/all-gifted-all-the-time/#comment-2346</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, while we are on the subject of the dream school I&#039;d love to create? My school would also be well versed in visual spatial, intensities and sensitivities of profoundly gifted students, emotional-social and in depth learning. 

Given that a lot of gifted kids have trouble falling asleep, we&#039;ll start later to accommodate brains that have trouble turning off at night. I&#039;m thinking nothing before 9:30am. You&#039;ll see less anxiety with sufficient sleep. 

Strict bedtimes like CTY. They told me early on they don&#039;t allow work to go back to the rooms because these kids would be up all night. Finally! Someone actually gets perfectionism!  My experience with gifted school programs is this: Don&#039;t be a perfectionist. We&#039;ll give you lots more work and if you can&#039;t get over  the perfectionism, fooey on you. But perfectionism isn&#039;t a cold you get over in seven days! It&#039;s a state of being. I&#039;m not saying you don&#039;t address it. Just not that way!

This is a no-brainer, right? So how come no one is doing it? And I&#039;m just getting started...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, while we are on the subject of the dream school I&#8217;d love to create? My school would also be well versed in visual spatial, intensities and sensitivities of profoundly gifted students, emotional-social and in depth learning. </p>
<p>Given that a lot of gifted kids have trouble falling asleep, we&#8217;ll start later to accommodate brains that have trouble turning off at night. I&#8217;m thinking nothing before 9:30am. You&#8217;ll see less anxiety with sufficient sleep. </p>
<p>Strict bedtimes like CTY. They told me early on they don&#8217;t allow work to go back to the rooms because these kids would be up all night. Finally! Someone actually gets perfectionism!  My experience with gifted school programs is this: Don&#8217;t be a perfectionist. We&#8217;ll give you lots more work and if you can&#8217;t get over  the perfectionism, fooey on you. But perfectionism isn&#8217;t a cold you get over in seven days! It&#8217;s a state of being. I&#8217;m not saying you don&#8217;t address it. Just not that way!</p>
<p>This is a no-brainer, right? So how come no one is doing it? And I&#8217;m just getting started&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: J.</title>
		<link>http://themorechild.com/2009/10/19/all-gifted-all-the-time/#comment-2344</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a little skeptical too. Only because they are starting a gifted preschool. I think what we did in preschool was head and shoulders above what any school could do. I regret I sent DD at all. We could have had so much more fun if I&#039;d kept her home. This is a little too serious for preschoolers. You reference Nysmith. And I agree. The more the merrier. But I know homeschoolers who looked into Nysmith and still came away concluding what they had going at home was better. Of course, it doesn&#039;t address the working issue, but I still believe, if you can do homeschooling well, still the better choice.

But we sure could use a PG high school. I&#039;ve long harbored ambitions to start one myself. IQ cutoff 145 with SAT scores to match Davidson as well. I&#039;m not an IQ or score snob. Heck, I unschooled during our lone homeschool year! Only tests that year were chapter ones in her on line geometry course, that&#039;s it. But that&#039;s how I would get my critical mass. I&#039;m thinking boarding school.

I&#039;m looking for an alternative to TJ and Montgomery Blair. Not for my kid, too late, she&#039;s graduating in June. The Washingtonian piece had a very telling comment. One student was quoted, &quot;TJ is not for smart kids. It&#039;s for motivated kids.&quot; 

Very very telling. We tend to divide highly gifted kids into two categories. Very motivated and driven or smart slacker. I&#039;m looking for that rare breed, the third category. The consummate intellectual, the child who does not work for grades, who inhales material, who is sensitive and smart and wants to learn all the time.

I&#039;m not after the go go high pressure world of DC. I want my kids getting all the rest their bodies need. That doesn&#039;t mean I won&#039;t cultivate ambition and dreams and soaring as far as your balloon will take you. I just want something different that what already exists, for all the kids (like mine) who need that. Creativity, joy, outdoors, field trips, vibrant discussions, a Great Books high school with some serious kick ass STEM. (Okay, just lost my credibility. Okay, get over it :).

You want a heavy homework school where kids have almost no self-directed time? That&#039;s what TJ and Montgomery Blair are for. I&#039;m looking for something different. For the kids who need different. My school would also be well versed in 2e. My daughter did CTY summers for seven years and I&#039;d like to model some of this on that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little skeptical too. Only because they are starting a gifted preschool. I think what we did in preschool was head and shoulders above what any school could do. I regret I sent DD at all. We could have had so much more fun if I&#8217;d kept her home. This is a little too serious for preschoolers. You reference Nysmith. And I agree. The more the merrier. But I know homeschoolers who looked into Nysmith and still came away concluding what they had going at home was better. Of course, it doesn&#8217;t address the working issue, but I still believe, if you can do homeschooling well, still the better choice.</p>
<p>But we sure could use a PG high school. I&#8217;ve long harbored ambitions to start one myself. IQ cutoff 145 with SAT scores to match Davidson as well. I&#8217;m not an IQ or score snob. Heck, I unschooled during our lone homeschool year! Only tests that year were chapter ones in her on line geometry course, that&#8217;s it. But that&#8217;s how I would get my critical mass. I&#8217;m thinking boarding school.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking for an alternative to TJ and Montgomery Blair. Not for my kid, too late, she&#8217;s graduating in June. The Washingtonian piece had a very telling comment. One student was quoted, &#8220;TJ is not for smart kids. It&#8217;s for motivated kids.&#8221; </p>
<p>Very very telling. We tend to divide highly gifted kids into two categories. Very motivated and driven or smart slacker. I&#8217;m looking for that rare breed, the third category. The consummate intellectual, the child who does not work for grades, who inhales material, who is sensitive and smart and wants to learn all the time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not after the go go high pressure world of DC. I want my kids getting all the rest their bodies need. That doesn&#8217;t mean I won&#8217;t cultivate ambition and dreams and soaring as far as your balloon will take you. I just want something different that what already exists, for all the kids (like mine) who need that. Creativity, joy, outdoors, field trips, vibrant discussions, a Great Books high school with some serious kick ass STEM. (Okay, just lost my credibility. Okay, get over it <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>You want a heavy homework school where kids have almost no self-directed time? That&#8217;s what TJ and Montgomery Blair are for. I&#8217;m looking for something different. For the kids who need different. My school would also be well versed in 2e. My daughter did CTY summers for seven years and I&#8217;d like to model some of this on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Crimson Wife</title>
		<link>http://themorechild.com/2009/10/19/all-gifted-all-the-time/#comment-2339</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing to beware of is the private GATE school that doesn&#039;t live up to its hype. There&#039;s one in our area that was our first choice until we crunched the numbers and realized there was no way we could afford the $24+k/child annual tuition. Then after we joined a homeschooling support group for families of gifted kids we started hearing all kinds of negative stuff about the school. 

A friend whose DS had started reading at age 2 was stuck in a 1st grade class where fewer than half of the other students could read and the school offered him no real accommodation. Now certainly not all gifted kids are early readers (my DH wasn&#039;t) but I would&#039;ve expected the majority to be reading by 1st grade given the IQ cutoff of the school is 145. And certainly a GATE school &lt;i&gt;OUGHT&lt;/i&gt; to be able to figure out how to accommodate a kid advanced in reading.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing to beware of is the private GATE school that doesn&#8217;t live up to its hype. There&#8217;s one in our area that was our first choice until we crunched the numbers and realized there was no way we could afford the $24+k/child annual tuition. Then after we joined a homeschooling support group for families of gifted kids we started hearing all kinds of negative stuff about the school. </p>
<p>A friend whose DS had started reading at age 2 was stuck in a 1st grade class where fewer than half of the other students could read and the school offered him no real accommodation. Now certainly not all gifted kids are early readers (my DH wasn&#8217;t) but I would&#8217;ve expected the majority to be reading by 1st grade given the IQ cutoff of the school is 145. And certainly a GATE school <i>OUGHT</i> to be able to figure out how to accommodate a kid advanced in reading.</p>
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